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Josh Wilcox

UFO. UAP. Flying saucer. Whatever you want to call it, it seems there's a “there” there. I'm far from an expert on this topic, but I've listened to many interviews over the last 5 years. Here are my favorite podcast episodes with some of the most imp...

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David Grusch

Luis Elizondo

Matthew Brown

David Fravor

Jake Barber

David Grusch

Air Force vet turned intelligence officer. Worked on secret Pentagon UFO projects (UAP Task Force, 2019–2021). Claims the government hides crashed alien crafts and bodies. Now a congressional advisor pushing for transparency.

David's first major public interview. Love the way Ross keeping the questions punching, always drilling in as much as he can.

NewsNation / Reality Check - Apr 2, 2023

David seems to collaborate quite a bit with Jeremy and George. Fun conversation here.

WEAPONIZED - Jun 13, 2023

Joe asks questions many of us are thinking. David is able to firmly say what he can safely say. Tantalizing conversation.

The Joe Rogan Experience - Nov 21, 2023

David and Jesse are apparently friends to a degree, so this interview feels much more relaxed and informative. Way more detailed than the other episodes. High production value.

American Alchemy - Oct 4, 2024

Luis Elizondo

Ex-Army guy who ran the Pentagon’s UFO program (AATIP, 2007–2012). Says the government knows about non-human tech and covers it up. Wrote a book, does tons of podcasts, and pushes for UFO disclosure.

Like many of us, Joe entertains the allure of Lue's claims while also trying to keep a balanced perspective. Riveting conversation which goes all over the place.

The Joe Rogan Experience - Aug 23, 2024

Patrick Bet-David and Lue with a straight-shooting talk on the wild claims. PBD has a way with interview facilitation. He's allergic to BS.

PBD Podcast - Sep 16, 2024

Lue certainly did the podcast circuit. There is overlap across his conversations, but I always love Jesse's approach and ability to meet his guests where they are intellectually.

American Alchemy - Oct 13, 2024

Hear Lue on DOAC, another huge podcast. Remember, this is not Steven's typical topic for conversation.

The Diary of a CEO - Oct 31, 2024

Hear from Lue on his own podcast. Episodes are very brief and to-the-point. Not much new information being shared, but useful to know this funnel exists.

UAP Disclosure Updates - Dec 2, 2024

Another great conversation, this time with Sean. All about the usual stuff, like government transparency and UAP disclosure.

The Sean Ryan Show - Feb 7, 2025

Matthew Brown

Former Defense Department and State Department analyst. Stumbled on a secret UFO surveillance program called Immaculate Constellation while working classified projects. Claims it tracks thousands of UAPs with AI.

Stop what you are doing and listen to Matthew's amazing story. Empathize with him.

WEAPONIZED - Apr 29, 2025

So good that the interview spills into multiple parts. Remember, this is a normal guy. He didn't ask for this.

WEAPONIZED - May 6, 2025

You'll want to make sure you make it to the end of this one. Holy cow.

WEAPONIZED - May 13, 2025

David Fravor

Retired Navy fighter pilot, flew F/A-18s for 18 years. Saw the famous 2004 “Tic Tac” UFO that outmaneuvered his jet. Testified to Congress, sticks to aviation threat angle, avoids alien talk.

You may recognize Jeremy in this one. He's a frequent guest on JRE, both solo and with others. David tells us all about the Tic Tac.

The Joe Rogan Experience - Oct 4, 2019

More of David's famous encounter, but with my favorite podcaster of all time. Lex goes deep with his questions.

Lex Fridman Podcast - Sep 8, 2020

It's a remote interview, so David's audio isn't as good, but still worthwhile. Notice the time difference from the other episodes. Do his views change?

WEAPONIZED - Aug 8, 2023

Jake Barber

Ex-military contractor who worked on aircraft crash retrievals. Says he saw UAP crash sites and non-human tech up close. New 2025 whistleblower, dropping bombshells on podcasts about secret ops.

Jake's introduction to the world. Crazy story. Ross is on the case. Note: For some reason, the interview isn't available through Reality Check on Apple Podcasts, but the full-length, unedited audio is available through the Total Disclosure Podcast, s...

NewsNation / Reality Check - Jan 26, 2025

Jesse does an awesome job of asking fun, yet imaginative, questions and letting Jake speak for himself. What a wild story.

American Alchemy - Jan 30, 2025